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But seriously, I've also noted 2 different reds. Good luck with the quest...or get out the paint gear (did you replace your stolen/misplaced equipment?).
I have 2 reds on my 750 tank, I was told by a paint repair chap that it is because one part of the tank area is plastic and the other metal, and this affects the shade of red.
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That seems plausible but my 1000S take off airbox and tank match pretty well.

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I have 2 reds on my 750 tank, I was told by a paint repair chap that it is because one part of the tank area is plastic and the other metal, and this affects the shade of red.
As a guy who paints things for fun, this statement is pure Male Cattle Defecant.

Proper prep and priming and there is no difference in final color. Every vehicle on the planet is a combination of plastics and metals...and their colors are consistent panel to panel.

And, just as a point of clarification: your tank is metal and your air box is plastic. NO part of the tank is plastic, unless you have a later gen F4 or you have a Brutale.

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Well the chap is a full time repair specialist so may be he just didn't know much? I myself as a modeler have seen different surfaces produce different shades.

Here is a little article on painting plastic and metal painted surfaces, probably pure Male Cattle Defecant, but anyway: http://www.automotivequalitysolution...factory-color/
You have to read the article as it isn't just about a possible incorrect respray, there is some depth to said article!

So you being correct of course means either my tank or airbox cover have been repainted at some point, or the factory did not use the same paint, or they failed in their prep/painting? They are the only reasons I can think of.

Yes I knew my tank was metal and the airbox plastic, I was just being lazy(difficult day at work) and called both combined the 'tank area' because lots of people would just refer to the combined area as the tank(not knowing the difference).
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@MVBERT: That article says exactly what I said...just in longer terms:

At AQS weve learned to take all of these factors into account when painting a repaired surface. First, we take the time to properly prepare the repaired surface for painting. Next, we research, formulate, and mix our tints and dyes with a computer controlled mixing system. We then spray test cards to find the exact color match. Finally, we alter our spray techniques to account for environmental conditions (such as humidity and air temperature), and will often blend the new paint into the existing factory paint of neighboring panels. All of this to ensure that the final repair is seamless and invisible.

We believe that if we take a few extra minutes to properly repair and prepare a surface, and take the time to really find the exact color match, we save time and money in the long run by not having to repaint a surface multiple times.

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Keep in mind that I am talking about a solid red. Sun Fades reds...extremely...it does not darken them.

There are two paint codes...one is darker.

Metallics and pearls are a different animal. Most cars are painted with them. Matching them is an exercise in patience.

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Hi silentservice703,

Thanks for the info,

So could the differences in the darker red on my metal tank and lighter red plastic air box cover be down to some kind of poor prep by MV or whoever painted them(this was 1999 and I think they were under some pressure to complete orders)? I doubt it is sun fade as the bike seems well pampered and the reds look strong.

The 2 red codes make sense because I had to state the year when ordering paint.
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I think the paint codes changed in the 2005/6 region.

1999, I believe was the first year for the new F4. They may have been trying to get their color scheme under control then.

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Where may one find the MV paint codes for the first gen bikes?

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