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Are we really that rare

Branching off from another thread here, I was surprised to find out how few early 1000S's there are out there in different counties. I have an 05 red/silver and always thought of it as exotic but not necessarily rare. Anybody know the production figures for the first gen F4 1000's and how many might be in North America?
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Look up threads by Veltro1. Blake has posted all of that information.

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Info on the all the ltd edition models but not the F4 1000s
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Not very many......less than you imagine. Like 300~500 max per year...or likely less. I know for a fact there were only 40 or so 2008 910Rs in white and only about 25~30 Orange 910S that year.

They had to bring in something like 250 312Rs to meet AMA homologation for superbike racing. Had a hard time selling them all at retail.

MV just announced a huge 30% increase in global sales this year. They reached 9000 units. The USA is not mentioned in the countries with big sales improvements.

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Not very many......less than you imagine. Like 300~500 max per year...or likely less. I know for a fact there were only 40 or so 2008 910Rs in white and only about 25~30 Orange 910S that year.

They had to bring in something like 250 312Rs to meet AMA homologation for superbike racing. Had a hard time selling them all at retail.

MV just announced a huge 30% increase in global sales this year. They reached 9000 units. The USA is not mentioned in the countries with big sales improvements.
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Info on the all the ltd edition models but not the F4 1000s
Ok so who cares how many Stradas in USA or anywhere else for that matter. MVs are still rare anywhere in the world, yes even in Varese.

I am not trying to undermine the great statistics work that Blake did of course, distribution and manufacture of specials has relevance, but not the Strada.

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I care, that's why I posted the question.

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Ok so who cares how many Stradas in USA or anywhere else for that matter. MVs are still rare anywhere in the world, yes even in Varese.

I am not trying to undermine the great statistics work that Blake did of course, distribution and manufacture of specials has relevance, but not the Strada.
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MV just announced a huge 30% increase in global sales this year. They reached 9000 units. The USA is not mentioned in the countries with big sales improvements.
Ed I would take the announcement of MV Agusta with a pinch of salt.
I do not believe that this sale figures representing how many bikes have been sold to consumers.
The increase of sales is merely an effect of a changed strategy.
Nowadays MV Agusta is moving their inventory to dealerships, were many bikes are registered for demo rides.
Look at Cycletrader or similar vehicle market search engines and You will find hundreds and might thousands of bikes for sale from dealerships.
In 2005 did MV Agusta sell 2000 bikes in Germany alone, Yes including Cagiva and Husqvarna, but only 2 MV models which counted for 750 units.
This Year they sold 1045 bikes by October, but have a whopping model range of 20 or so models.
Did they build any F4, besides the RC?
How many big Brutales did they build?
Yes the Dragster, 800 Brutale is their seller and might the TV now.
Didn't Castiglioni announced two Years ago that he would build more than 10.000 bikes in 2015 and next Year 15.000?
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True .....but in the realm of rarity, production of 9000 global units is a tiny number. Whether they be retailed or not, that makes MV a pretty rare bird. And in the USA, which is a fairly large market for big bikes (not millions of scooters and 125s like India or Asia) MV doesn't even register on the market share pie chart.

All the OEMs use wholesale to dealer numbers for sales reporting. Every OEM, even Big Red, has lots of non-current inventory sitting on showroom floors.

So, the answer to the original question is.....yep, MVs are pretty dang rare.

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