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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 11-12-2007, 11:52 AM Thread Starter
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Would you trade your bike for a new MV there were as an owner loyalty program?

Would you trade-in your MV to buy a F4R, 312 or F4RR if MV offerred you extra cash through a owner loyalty program?

Background: I was talking with Pro Italia about the $3,500+ discount program on F4Rs. They were saying the program while great for new customers, hurts all F4 owners as it drives prices down. I then said if MV offerred an owner loyalty program that should help offset some depreciation.

So, if MV offerred you an addition $1,000 to $2,500 as a loyal MV customer, would you trade up to a new MV? This would also be in conjunction with the current discounts and low interest financing on the F4R.
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Would you trade-in your MV to buy a F4R, 312 or F4RR if MV offerred you extra cash through a owner loyalty program?

Background: I was talking with Pro Italia about the $3,500+ discount program on F4Rs. They were saying the program while great for new customers, hurts all F4 owners as it drives prices down. I then said if MV offerred an owner loyalty program that should help offset some depreciation.

So, if MV offerred you an addition $1,000 to $2,500 as a loyal MV customer, would you trade up to a new MV? This would also be in conjunction with the current discounts and low interest financing on the F4R.
MV in the UK really piss me off with this one, first I buy a 1000S for £14250 and one year later D&K are selling them for £10000, luckily my dealer seemed unaware of this fact, I then buy a 1000R and within 6 months they have replaced it with a 312R, one year later a 312RR, I have a 14 month old bike that has been superseeded twice!! MV are now selling 312R's for £12500.
As far as I am concerned MV can off. I was really looking forward to the new Fireblade and am very dissapointed it is so ugly.

I STILL think MV don't give a shit once you have bought a bike from them, unless of couse they think you are loaded like the Tamburini owners who got the sleazy invite to buy a CC which really was

I'm having a bad day in case you haven't noticed

In answer to your question Alan, maybe, but I doubt very much at all that MV would ever do anything like that for it's customers

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I STILL think MV don't give a shit once you have bought a bike from them, unless of couse they think you are loaded like the Tamburini owners who got the sleazy invite to buy a CC which really was

In answer to your question Alan, maybe, but I doubt very much at all that MV would ever do anything like that for it's customers
I'm not having a bad day, heh, but I still agree.

Although, I will admit, sometimes they will surprise you. You hear stories about how someone can't get a part for months and months, but on the other hand, they replace some hugely expensive part under warranty (as they should) with no problems at all.

Now back to the original issue....

Umm, I MIGHT. I am intrigued by the newer bikes, they feel a lot lighter from the seat than my 750 and that seems like something I would want to try.

But why would they do that when they can't seem to stop making new models that obsolete the old ones every 6 months? They would go bankrupt and the used market would drop even further.

Still sticking with my "old" 750...

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i thnk Mike is rite ..... theres a lot of things that customer has highlighted the problem to MV and nothing so far has been done .... So what kind of loyalty services can they provide ......

Does that mean Social Escort Services to those who spend $$$$$

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When I mentioned the idea of an owner loyalty program to the sales person, his response was "they'd have to." That being said, I was just trying to see if such a program would be enough incentive to current owners.

Mike, that's exactly what the sales person was talking about and why they were upset. Can you imagine just spending $23K on an F4R only to find out a few weeks later it's now depreciated beyond $20,000 (USD).

In terms of new bikes, I don't think MV's done yet. I think the new design will still come out next year as a 2009 model - which is another reason I think MV needs a loyalty program to move the 312s.

Andy, for lightness, I think the Brembo Superlights wheels would do the trick.
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Andy, for lightness, I think the Brembo Superlights wheels would do the trick.
Yeah, and I think there are a whole bunch of other things too. I think the Marzocchi forks are lighter (would love actual data though), the crankshaft is multiple pounds lighter, I think they have a newer smaller alternator now too?

It was shocking pushing my bike up the ramp, and then pushing the 1098 up. No comparison, the 1098 is much lighter. I haven't pushed a new MV 1000 up a ramp (probably won't unless it's mine), but I suspect it will be a huge difference.

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MV in the UK really piss me off with this one, first I buy a 1000S for £14250 and one year later D&K are selling them for £10000, luckily my dealer seemed unaware of this fact, I then buy a 1000R and within 6 months they have replaced it with a 312R, one year later a 312RR, I have a 14 month old bike that has been superseeded twice!! MV are now selling 312R's for £12500.
As far as I am concerned MV can off. I was really looking forward to the new Fireblade and am very dissapointed it is so ugly.

I STILL think MV don't give a shit once you have bought a bike from them, unless of couse they think you are loaded like the Tamburini owners who got the sleazy invite to buy a CC which really was

I'm having a bad day in case you haven't noticed

In answer to your question Alan, maybe, but I doubt very much at all that MV would ever do anything like that for it's customers
+1........... They do not give a toss, 910R missing the cans that were meant to come with it.... Would not buy another new MV, had two now and just can't afford the "hit" when selling.... Will however take advantage of this when after another F4..... now who want a 910R for £8500? roll up roll up

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MV in the UK really piss me off with this one, first I buy a 1000S for £14250 and one year later D&K are selling them for £10000, luckily my dealer seemed unaware of this fact, I then buy a 1000R and within 6 months they have replaced it with a 312R, one year later a 312RR, I have a 14 month old bike that has been superseeded twice!! MV are now selling 312R's for £12500.
As far as I am concerned MV can off. I was really looking forward to the new Fireblade and am very dissapointed it is so ugly.

I STILL think MV don't give a shit once you have bought a bike from them, unless of couse they think you are loaded like the Tamburini owners who got the sleazy invite to buy a CC which really was

I'm having a bad day in case you haven't noticed

In answer to your question Alan, maybe, but I doubt very much at all that MV would ever do anything like that for it's customers








Mike, this is something Ive been saying for ages. I just can't believe they bring out so many new models (colour schemes) in such a short space of time. It doesn't do the brand image any favours and most certainly doesn't do the owners any favours! Who's going to buy this new 1078 bike when they know the model will change again next year and perhaps with a new body shape.

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I might be tempted by a real (sincere) offer on my 1000S for a 312r or newer 312RR myself, but it would definitely hinge on how the numbers play out for both. With that said I definetly feel for the guy's that have gotten caught out there with all the revision F4 models as of late- not a cool thing for anyone really. I think we'd all be a little more accepting of this stuff if they had at least addressed some of the underlined problems with the bikes reliablity as part of this process.
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hi yes i would take that deal if i could get the bike i want, i have a brand new 1000s with 600 miles and if i could get a 312r white/black i think i would go for that,
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