Fastest on the brakes Cars or bikes ?

gotojoe · 01-09-2013, 01:07 PM

Talking to a young fella who has recently passed his US bike test.

They are taught that bikes stop faster than cars...so to be wary of tailgaters colliding with your bike from the rear.

Bikes stop faster than cars.? .sometimes..it all depends..

I would assume that the car behind me is too close and I am too close to the car in front...

Porsche Boxster 112 ft stop from 62mph

Harley Electraglide 156 ft stop from 62mph

Have we got figures for our MVs ?

joe

Squidly · 01-09-2013, 01:27 PM

Harley is a heavier bike with inferior parts=EXTREME braking distances LOL :P

Bev Evans · 01-09-2013, 01:31 PM

Probably true to say that BIKERS stop better than DRIVERS. My bike was 3 days old I was stood in stationary traffic minding my own business when I felt something hit against my left leg the driver was level with me before she finally stopped ie her bumper was 6 foot in front of my back wheel, fortunately I'm tall enough to flat foot when I'm stationary dread to think what would have happened to anyone who has to tipee toe

kieran323 · 01-09-2013, 01:45 PM

I would think it more depends on paying attention to what's going on.

Physics wise with like for like parts (i.e. same spec on car and bike), I would imagine the car would be capable of stopping sooner with it's superior contact patch over four wheels rather than two or sometimes one on a bike

eddypro · 01-09-2013, 02:57 PM

car has more rubber on the ground,thats what i was told.

CAG · 01-09-2013, 03:20 PM

My guess is that if you are on your electraglide and get rear ended by a boxter, the boxter is going to get the worse of it.

On the other hand if you are on your MV and get rear ended by a Suburban, well...

In this country I would guess there are a lot more distracted drivers in Trucks and heavy cars than Porsche Boxters.

I think the point, and it was a good one, be wary of tailgating vehicles.

Ryan Stewart · 01-09-2013, 03:20 PM

A performance car can easily out brake a bike of a similar class. Now, if we are talking an MV vs a minivan, you should be able to outbrake them.

But if we are taking an MV vs a Lotus, M3 or the like then Id leave following distance. While being heavy the car has a few advantages, the key one being the very low COG, preventing the "stoppie."

Now, regarding the person piloting it. Studies have shown that, by a great margin, the reaction times of the average biker are superior. Most attribute it to the brain's constant stimulation and the demands of riding vs being in a car.

ACT MV · 01-09-2013, 03:47 PM

In Australia we are required to leave a safe distance between ourselves and the vehicle in front of us ....
This creates some very circular conversations for our police when "good drivers / riders " who believe they have left enough space run into the vehicle in front of them ... Many of these drivers spend a lot of energy trying to blame the person they drove into for the collision

From my understanding cars will out brake bikes generally, however on the road it will probably be more dependant in who is paying attention

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jimboF4 · 01-09-2013, 04:03 PM

Comparing my Lotus Elise to my F4 the car wins on stopping distance every time, big rubber beats bike tyres.
jimboF4

gotojoe · 01-09-2013, 04:50 PM

It was an interesting exchange..in thatI had always worked on cars out stopping bikes..and young Eric has been advised at riding school that be careful as bikes outbrake cars.

It seems on closer examination the average family car won't stop in as short a distance as a bike with discs all round....However a performance car will in theory ...

So the thing I learn from all this is If I am following a car I'll assume he can stop on a dime and if I'm being followed I'll assume the car behind " has no brakes "

I don't however quite know what to do if I get in road formation with a bunch of Harleys ; )

01-09-2013, 01:07 PM	#1
gotojoe Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 1000 R] [View photo album] Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Warwickshire UK Posts: 5,272	Fastest on the brakes Cars or bikes ? Talking to a young fella who has recently passed his US bike test. They are taught that bikes stop faster than cars...so to be wary of tailgaters colliding with your bike from the rear. Bikes stop faster than cars.? .sometimes..it all depends.. I would assume that the car behind me is too close and I am too close to the car in front... Porsche Boxster 112 ft stop from 62mph Harley Electraglide 156 ft stop from 62mph Have we got figures for our MVs ? joe

01-09-2013, 01:27 PM	#2
Squidly Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 1000 R] Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 352	Harley is a heavier bike with inferior parts=EXTREME braking distances LOL :P __________________

01-09-2013, 01:45 PM	#4
kieran323 Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4S 750] [View photo album] Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tauranga, New Zealand Posts: 763	I would think it more depends on paying attention to what's going on. Physics wise with like for like parts (i.e. same spec on car and bike), I would imagine the car would be capable of stopping sooner with it's superior contact patch over four wheels rather than two or sometimes one on a bike __________________ "You live more for five minutes going fast on a bike than other people do in all their life" #58

01-09-2013, 03:20 PM	#6
CAG Senior Member MV in the Registry: [Brutale S] [F4 750 SPR] [F4S 750] [View photo album] Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Home. In Dixie. Posts: 12,189	My guess is that if you are on your electraglide and get rear ended by a boxter, the boxter is going to get the worse of it. On the other hand if you are on your MV and get rear ended by a Suburban, well... In this country I would guess there are a lot more distracted drivers in Trucks and heavy cars than Porsche Boxters. I think the point, and it was a good one, be wary of tailgating vehicles. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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01-09-2013, 01:31 PM	#3
Bev Evans Member MV in the Registry: [Brutale 1090RR] Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 31	Probably true to say that BIKERS stop better than DRIVERS. My bike was 3 days old I was stood in stationary traffic minding my own business when I felt something hit against my left leg the driver was level with me before she finally stopped ie her bumper was 6 foot in front of my back wheel, fortunately I'm tall enough to flat foot when I'm stationary dread to think what would have happened to anyone who has to tipee toe

01-09-2013, 02:57 PM	#5
eddypro Senior Member MV in the Registry: [Brutale 1078 RR] Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: brisbane Posts: 1,251	car has more rubber on the ground,thats what i was told.

01-09-2013, 03:20 PM	#7
Ryan Stewart Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4S 750] [View photo album] Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 1,046	A performance car can easily out brake a bike of a similar class. Now, if we are talking an MV vs a minivan, you should be able to outbrake them. But if we are taking an MV vs a Lotus, M3 or the like then Id leave following distance. While being heavy the car has a few advantages, the key one being the very low COG, preventing the "stoppie." Now, regarding the person piloting it. Studies have shown that, by a great margin, the reaction times of the average biker are superior. Most attribute it to the brain's constant stimulation and the demands of riding vs being in a car.

01-09-2013, 03:47 PM	#8
ACT MV Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F3] Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: ACT, Australia Posts: 118	In Australia we are required to leave a safe distance between ourselves and the vehicle in front of us .... This creates some very circular conversations for our police when "good drivers / riders " who believe they have left enough space run into the vehicle in front of them ... Many of these drivers spend a lot of energy trying to blame the person they drove into for the collision From my understanding cars will out brake bikes generally, however on the road it will probably be more dependant in who is paying attention Sent from my iPhone using Motorcycle.com App

01-09-2013, 04:03 PM	#9
jimboF4 Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4S 750] [Brutale S] [F4 1000 R] [View photo album] Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Somerset, England Posts: 366	Comparing my Lotus Elise to my F4 the car wins on stopping distance every time, big rubber beats bike tyres. jimboF4

01-09-2013, 04:50 PM	#10
gotojoe Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 1000 R] [View photo album] Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Warwickshire UK Posts: 5,272	It was an interesting exchange..in thatI had always worked on cars out stopping bikes..and young Eric has been advised at riding school that be careful as bikes outbrake cars. It seems on closer examination the average family car won't stop in as short a distance as a bike with discs all round....However a performance car will in theory ... So the thing I learn from all this is If I am following a car I'll assume he can stop on a dime and if I'm being followed I'll assume the car behind " has no brakes " I don't however quite know what to do if I get in road formation with a bunch of Harleys ; )