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Old 12-04-2012, 07:12 PM   #1
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Default Crossed up? Could be the passenger seat...

If anyone is feeling at all crossed up on the bike.... I believe I've found the problem and solution

Testing the bike right after I got it with 3x AMA amateur Superbike champion Brian Evans, we were feeling really crossed up going into the turn, and running wide at the exit. After a lot of testing we realized its because the passenger seat doesn't allow you to slide your ass far enough back.

So I took the passenger seat off the bike, removed the covering, and then shaved back the foam seat by about 1" (all the way to the hand strap that goes over the top). This totally solved the problem. It was like night and day.... Much more stable in the turn (took away that "loose" feeling), didn't run as wide on turn exit, and most importantly, allowed me to lead with my outside shoulder.

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Old 12-05-2012, 04:57 AM   #2
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".....most importantly, allowed me to lead with my outside shoulder."

I've never heard of this, can you tell me what you mean?

My experience is the same as yours, i find the bike more manageable with my arse all the way back on exit, though it does encourage the front to lift.

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Old 12-05-2012, 08:34 AM   #3
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".....most importantly, allowed me to lead with my outside shoulder."

I've never heard of this, can you tell me what you mean?

My experience is the same as yours, i find the bike more manageable with my arse all the way back on exit, though it does encourage the front to lift.

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What I mean is on say a left hand turn, my head and chest are turned and projected to the left. This means that I get my right shoulder rotated forward further than my left shoulder amd the result is me cheast is square to my projected turn. If my left shoulder was further forward I'd be crossed up.

Like this:

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...22293359_o.jpg

It's what we all do. I just worded it funny. Sorry about that.

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Old 12-05-2012, 09:41 AM   #4
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It came across strangely because you always lead with the inside shoulder. Your image clearly shows that. What matters is that you can get yourself off the inside edge of the seat, chin over your inside arm/hand, and your body is not centered over the high side of the machine. Getting the outside shoulder over the center of the machine gets your seight moved inside and the center of gravity moved to the inside of the bike.
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:53 AM   #5
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So, what you're saying is, being further back on the bike, gave you better corner stability ?
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Old 12-05-2012, 10:57 AM   #6
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Donsy...I left this one alone with you in mind. Been checking often to see if and when you would coment. Lol
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Old 12-05-2012, 11:05 AM   #7
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I don't know M8... more weight transfer to the rear usually makes the bike run wide on exit. It lessens the fork angle as you apply power. Adding ride height in the rear or raising the forks in the clamps is the classic solution to running wide.... or offset triple clamps.
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▲▲▲ correct beauwulf.
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I agree from Donsy on down...I am thinking that Corran being able to scoot a tad further back actually allowed him to get his weight forward moving the CoG and creating better handling. Thoughts?
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Old 12-05-2012, 02:26 PM   #10
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So, what you're saying is, being further back on the bike, gave you better corner stability ?
yes exactly
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