Which Quick Shifter for an F4 2010?

gvanrenterghem · 12-03-2012, 09:33 AM

Hi guys,

I know a few threat treat about this subject, but do not answer my questions specifically so:
- What is the best Quick Shifter for the basic F4 2010? Ideally not the one where the button is below the quick shifter but rather one with the captor on the link between the gear lever and the gearbox.
- How easy is it to fit on the bike assuming no modification has been made to the bike (no power commander or things like that installed)? Is there a direct connector on the bike to fit a quick shifter?
- How much damage does it do to the gear box in the long run?
- Any idea where I could find one at a discount to PRP?

Thanks in advance for your help.

SpainF4 · 12-03-2012, 09:59 AM

Interesting !

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MVF3_40 · 12-03-2012, 01:44 PM

Have a look at cordona strain gauges, using one on my f3 and liking it. They have the advantage that you can set the weight that triggers the switch (how hard you push the lever).

Damage? None that you will ever notice unless the shifter is set up badly. And you'll know if its set up badly!

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simcity · 12-03-2012, 02:40 PM

Hi,

I'm using a Cordona strain gauge, but on my bike it is set up to work with the Microtec M227 ECU, which has a plug in port for a QS, so its a nice and neat setup.

Using the stock ECU, believe you will need something like a PQ8 kit to splice into the harness and interrupt power to the ignition:

http://www.cordona.net/pq8.htm

Its nice quality kit.

Donsy · 12-03-2012, 07:40 PM

Pretty sure he meant that he did not want to use a link-age type system ? Probably because he does not want to buy new rearset's ? But then again, he mentions a link between gearbox and lever ?
Can you be a bit more specific man, do you have standard pegs on your bike, because than you don't have a link between the lever and the gearbox, all you have is the actual gear lever.

DLO01 · 12-03-2012, 08:19 PM

As I interpret. He does want one where the pressure senor is between lever and gearbox.

You can get ones that have a button where your foot comes in contact with the rubber on the lever. This I believe he does not want.

Donsy · 12-03-2012, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLO01

As I interpret. He does want one where the pressure senor is between lever and gearbox.

You can get ones that have a button where your foot comes in contact with the rubber on the lever. This I believe he does not want.

You are right I think Deano, which narrows the options down greatly.
But, the following, or similar, mod is possible and then I would recommend the Cordona strain gauge system. No Power-Commander required.

gvanrenterghem · 12-04-2012, 06:04 AM

Sorry guys for not being clearer. Indeed, I have the basic setting like Donsy showed on the pic, hence without link-age type system but direct connection. I did not realise that the normal quickshifters were fitted on link-age type systems.

What I am looking for is definitely closer to what Donsy showed on the pic i.e. an adaptation of my current setting to get a quick shifter not with a sensor that I need to touch with the top of my foot but rather one connected on an axe that is pushed when I switch gear.

The setting change on Donsy appears quite appealing. Any idea where I could get the gear lever (looks like the guy took the normal one and melted some material on the side to create a peg where to plug the quick shifter axe)? Also, where would i get the fitting at the top of the quick shifter axe that maintains the axe in verical position?

Any idea would be great.

Last question regarding how easy it is to plug, I see that Cardona has four versions:
- PQ8 Combo MV Agusta 2 coils
- PQ8 Combo MV Agusta 4 coils
- PQ8 Kit MV Agusta 2 coils
- PQ8 Kit MV Agusta 4 coils
Which one is the one that fits on the basic F4? Do I need anything extra?

Thanks for your help

smudge · 12-17-2012, 06:14 AM

Hi Gvanreterghem, Did you have any luck with finding a gear lever and top bracket as I'm thinking of going the same way.

W.Romanjí · 01-24-2013, 12:38 PM

Hi,

Has somebody tried the Starlane - POWER SHIFT - NRG on the F4 2010 and onwards?

It´s the quickshifter used by Team Honda Gresini Moto2 and Team San Carlo Gresini Moto3. It has a completly new type of sensor similar to a strain-gauge but much smaller and according to Starlane much more sensitve then for example a cordona type strain gauge.

This kit requires cutting of power supply to ignition coils or injectors, see technical diagram below.

Best!

12-03-2012, 09:33 AM	#1
gvanrenterghem Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 1000] Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 51	Which Quick Shifter for an F4 2010? Hi guys, I know a few threat treat about this subject, but do not answer my questions specifically so: - What is the best Quick Shifter for the basic F4 2010? Ideally not the one where the button is below the quick shifter but rather one with the captor on the link between the gear lever and the gearbox. - How easy is it to fit on the bike assuming no modification has been made to the bike (no power commander or things like that installed)? Is there a direct connector on the bike to fit a quick shifter? - How much damage does it do to the gear box in the long run? - Any idea where I could find one at a discount to PRP? Thanks in advance for your help.

12-03-2012, 09:59 AM	#2
SpainF4 Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 MY2010+] [View photo album] Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Benidorm Posts: 581	Interesting ! Sent from my Samsung using Tapatalk __________________ INTERNATIONAL DATABASE AND DOCUMENTACION MV-AGUSTA.ES

12-03-2012, 02:40 PM	#4
simcity Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 MY2010+] [View photo album] Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Londinium Posts: 294	Cordona Hi, I'm using a Cordona strain gauge, but on my bike it is set up to work with the Microtec M227 ECU, which has a plug in port for a QS, so its a nice and neat setup. Using the stock ECU, believe you will need something like a PQ8 kit to splice into the harness and interrupt power to the ignition: http://www.cordona.net/pq8.htm Its nice quality kit. Attached Images

12-03-2012, 07:40 PM	#5
Donsy Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 1000 R] [View photo album] Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Western Australia Posts: 9,247	Pretty sure he meant that he did not want to use a link-age type system ? Probably because he does not want to buy new rearset's ? But then again, he mentions a link between gearbox and lever ? Can you be a bit more specific man, do you have standard pegs on your bike, because than you don't have a link between the lever and the gearbox, all you have is the actual gear lever. __________________ Dons Nel Manuals are here - http://www.teamdouble3racing.com/manuals

12-03-2012, 08:19 PM	#6
DLO01 Senior Member No MVs in the Registry Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 217	As I interpret. He does want one where the pressure senor is between lever and gearbox. You can get ones that have a button where your foot comes in contact with the rubber on the lever. This I believe he does not want. __________________ Deano.

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12-03-2012, 01:44 PM	#3
MVF3_40 Senior Member No MVs in the Registry Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 424	Have a look at cordona strain gauges, using one on my f3 and liking it. They have the advantage that you can set the weight that triggers the switch (how hard you push the lever). Damage? None that you will ever notice unless the shifter is set up badly. And you'll know if its set up badly! Sent from my Nexus 7 using Motorcycle.com Free App

12-04-2012, 06:04 AM	#8
gvanrenterghem Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 1000] Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 51	Sorry guys for not being clearer. Indeed, I have the basic setting like Donsy showed on the pic, hence without link-age type system but direct connection. I did not realise that the normal quickshifters were fitted on link-age type systems. What I am looking for is definitely closer to what Donsy showed on the pic i.e. an adaptation of my current setting to get a quick shifter not with a sensor that I need to touch with the top of my foot but rather one connected on an axe that is pushed when I switch gear. The setting change on Donsy appears quite appealing. Any idea where I could get the gear lever (looks like the guy took the normal one and melted some material on the side to create a peg where to plug the quick shifter axe)? Also, where would i get the fitting at the top of the quick shifter axe that maintains the axe in verical position? Any idea would be great. Last question regarding how easy it is to plug, I see that Cardona has four versions: - PQ8 Combo MV Agusta 2 coils - PQ8 Combo MV Agusta 4 coils - PQ8 Kit MV Agusta 2 coils - PQ8 Kit MV Agusta 4 coils Which one is the one that fits on the basic F4? Do I need anything extra? Thanks for your help

12-17-2012, 06:14 AM	#9
smudge New Member No MVs in the Registry Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: North East UK Posts: 5	Hi Gvanreterghem, Did you have any luck with finding a gear lever and top bracket as I'm thinking of going the same way.

01-24-2013, 12:38 PM	#10
W.Romanjí Member MV in the Registry: [F4 MY2010+] [View photo album] Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 46	Starlane - POWER SHIFT - NRG Hi, Has somebody tried the Starlane - POWER SHIFT - NRG on the F4 2010 and onwards? It´s the quickshifter used by Team Honda Gresini Moto2 and Team San Carlo Gresini Moto3. It has a completly new type of sensor similar to a strain-gauge but much smaller and according to Starlane much more sensitve then for example a cordona type strain gauge. This kit requires cutting of power supply to ignition coils or injectors, see technical diagram below. Best! Attached Images

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