Seat ride height

arizona brutale · 11-07-2012, 11:15 AM

How important is seat height to handling?

esq'z me · 11-07-2012, 11:50 AM

Seat height not so much....ride height very much.

MV BOY · 11-07-2012, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esq'z me

Seat height not so much....ride height very much.

I was gonna lol at that but seriously, what is the difference?

esq'z me · 11-07-2012, 01:33 PM

Seat height is just how far from the ground the top of the seat is and can be changed with different padding, shape, etc. Ergonomically it can be important, but from a handling perspective it has little influence.

Ride height is the relevant distance from the rear axle in the swing arm to the frame and affects the steering geometry of the chassis.

PunyJuney · 11-07-2012, 03:55 PM

http://www.stmsuspension.com

I realize this doesn't help you in AZ but I have a Brutale that handles perfectly, for me. I'm 5'2" and as the club name implies...Puny. If you need help, find it where the real suspension professionals go...with the racers, at the track. My guy is great and has my bikes dialed in for me. Many people argue that you shouldn't change the ride height/suspension settings as they are set up the way they are on purpose. I am not a 5'10" 200lb man, so I go to someone with an engineering degree in vehicle dynamics and have my bikes set up for my ride as opposed to the generic rider. I am very much on the tips of my toes, but like I said my bike handles perfectly for me.

Donsy · 11-07-2012, 05:57 PM

It all depends on how much you want or can take out of the bike and your riding requirements. Some people wont notice if you added 10mm ride height either end of the bike, others will notice the difference right away. And Ed, seat height/shape etc, can make a huge difference on how a bike handles, but by then we're splitting hair's.
June is right, even if the manual states.....blah blah blah, that does not apply to every shape and size out there, and also does not consider the massive difference in tyre profiles available.

If you're more specific in your question, you might get a better response, maybe more applicable to what your trying to find out.

arizona brutale · 11-08-2012, 09:11 AM

Thanks a lot everyone. One more thing added to the list of winter projects.

11-07-2012, 11:15 AM	#1
arizona brutale Senior Member MV in the Registry: [Brutale 910 R] Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 51	Seat ride height How important is seat height to handling?

11-07-2012, 11:50 AM	#2
esq'z me Senior Member MV in the Registry: [Brutale 910 R] [F4 750 SPR] [View photo album] Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Peachtree City, GA Posts: 9,789	Seat height not so much....ride height very much. __________________ I used to be fast....now I just dream about it. '08 910R, '04 F4 SPR #275 Track Bike, YSR50 restoration project, '71 CB100, '78 ATC70

11-07-2012, 01:33 PM	#4
esq'z me Senior Member MV in the Registry: [Brutale 910 R] [F4 750 SPR] [View photo album] Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Peachtree City, GA Posts: 9,789	Seat height is just how far from the ground the top of the seat is and can be changed with different padding, shape, etc. Ergonomically it can be important, but from a handling perspective it has little influence. Ride height is the relevant distance from the rear axle in the swing arm to the frame and affects the steering geometry of the chassis. __________________ I used to be fast....now I just dream about it. '08 910R, '04 F4 SPR #275 Track Bike, YSR50 restoration project, '71 CB100, '78 ATC70

11-07-2012, 03:55 PM	#5
PunyJuney Senior Member MV in the Registry: [Brutale 1078 RR] Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Morrison, Colorado USA Posts: 325	http://www.stmsuspension.com I realize this doesn't help you in AZ but I have a Brutale that handles perfectly, for me. I'm 5'2" and as the club name implies...Puny. If you need help, find it where the real suspension professionals go...with the racers, at the track. My guy is great and has my bikes dialed in for me. Many people argue that you shouldn't change the ride height/suspension settings as they are set up the way they are on purpose. I am not a 5'10" 200lb man, so I go to someone with an engineering degree in vehicle dynamics and have my bikes set up for my ride as opposed to the generic rider. I am very much on the tips of my toes, but like I said my bike handles perfectly for me. __________________ "Get on the fire engine!" http://youtu.be/vrIXFnjqi2E ........ 09 Brutale 1078RR 12 CBR1000RR

11-07-2012, 05:57 PM	#6
Donsy Senior Member MV in the Registry: [F4 1000 R] [View photo album] Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Western Australia Posts: 9,496	It all depends on how much you want or can take out of the bike and your riding requirements. Some people wont notice if you added 10mm ride height either end of the bike, others will notice the difference right away. And Ed, seat height/shape etc, can make a huge difference on how a bike handles, but by then we're splitting hair's. June is right, even if the manual states.....blah blah blah, that does not apply to every shape and size out there, and also does not consider the massive difference in tyre profiles available. If you're more specific in your question, you might get a better response, maybe more applicable to what your trying to find out. __________________ Dons Nel Manuals are here - http://www.teamdouble3racing.com/manuals

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11-08-2012, 09:11 AM	#7
arizona brutale Senior Member MV in the Registry: [Brutale 910 R] Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 51	Thanks a lot everyone. One more thing added to the list of winter projects.

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