[wkb666]

Hi All !
Was all ready to do the deal on a new 920 today when I spotted a unregistered 989r sitting in the dealers! As a potential new MV owner can you guys shed some light on the differences between the two ??
Cheers !!!

[joanne]

personally and i am no expert!!
I really miss my 989r it was a totally different bike to the 920. i went 989r - 990r that packed up then 920. i really enjoy the 920 but the build quality is not the best, my chain guard fell of just after the first service and i cannot seem to get any replacement parts for it. And the one piece seat doesn't quite fit properly all though the one piece is more comfortable. A lady contacted me when she went to buy my old 989r and she bought it, she absolutely loves it. it's got more grunt, engine braking,and the gear box felt solid. the 990 and the 920 gear boxes don't feel as solid. Pluss there should be loads of after market parts available for the 989r.
If was in your position i would check the front headlight glass wasn't loose and give it a good wiggle and go for the 989r.

[esq'z me]

920 was a step down from the 989R.....brakes, suspension etc.

[Randarosa]

There's a lot of people (myself included) that prefer the earlier generation Brutie versus the newer models.

[MaskU2See]

Originally Posted by Randarosa

There's a lot of people (myself included) that prefer the earlier generation Brutie versus the newer models.

I will have to agree with you on this one.

[squibby]

While generally the high spec older Brutales are better then the newer 'budget' models from some viewpoints, you'd be hard to argue that a 989 is better then the 920.

Build quality is just as good now as before form what I've seen, and all components are beautifully crafted, so stuff at the bottom of the league is by no means bad at all.

Brutale S (750cc)
Brutale 910S - (still has more power then a 920)
Brutale 989r - Has the 910r upgrades EXCEPT for the wheels - painted black wheels a bit dissapointing
Brutale 920 - budget seat budget paintwork - electrnics package edges it ahead of a 989r imo
Brutale 910r - Marchesini wheels and all the other goodies, loads of power but a bit less refined then a modern Brutale
Brutale 1090r - Has all the goodies of the latest Brutes except nice but slightly cheaper 1 piece seat, doesn't have the integrated turn signal/mirrors
Brutale 1078rr - The DADDY of the 1st gen models - Tamburinis Brutale swansong, the finest of the finest
Brutale 990r - Has ALL the goodies, just a bit less power then the 1090rr
Brutale 1090rr - THE DADDY!

You could probably pick up that 989r a fair whack cheaper then the 920, depends if it's part of the dealership owners 'private collection' or not wether he'll sell it for what he should. I'd honestly save a bit more and get a used 990r. They were a top machine, not suprised MV realised they were too nice for the price and replaced with the 1090r, the 1090r being a ever so slightly downgraded 990r - although through the trickery of the new name they tried to make it sound better.

[Randarosa]

My guess is 50 years from now, the first 750 Brutie (especially the Oro) and the 910R will go down as the most desirable Bruties from a collector's point of view. Why? Purity of design in the 750, and attention to specs and paint on the 910R. Sure, the 1078 has more power, but personally, I like the 910R paint schemes way better.

The second generation Brutie is likely a better vehicle, but then again, the Ferrari Daytona was a giant step up over the 275GTB. That being said, 40 odd years later, a 275GTB4 is a million dollar car, and an equivalent 365GTB Daytona won't bring nearly as much.

I won't live long enough to witness whether I'm correct or not, so it's easy to spout off about my opinion.

[Mick de V]

Originally Posted by Randarosa

My guess is 50 years from now, the first 750 Brutie (especially the Oro) and the 910R will go down as the most desirable Bruties from a collector's point of view. Why? Purity of design in the 750, and attention to specs and paint on the 910R. Sure, the 1078 has more power, but personally, I like the 910R paint schemes way better.

Having had both the 750S and the 910R, I couldn't agree more. Though I have to admit I haven't ridden the new generation Bruties.

[Randarosa]

Originally Posted by Mick de V

I haven't ridden the new generation Bruties.

Me neither.......but I don't care. A motorcycle has to grab me esthetically before I'll ride it, or consider owning it. When the 1078 came out, I knew it was a step up from the 910R that I currently own. I just didn't like the later paint schemes compared to what I had.

Another example for me was an early example of the Triumph Rocket III. My dealer had one that he had tricked out with a fancy exhaust system that made the bike sound like a big-block Chevy. I was stoked, but I just could'nt get past the esthetics of that ugly pig......and I really tried hard to like the bike.

The new generation Brutie may be a much more refined bike than mine, but personally I dont like it's looks......same for the new gen F4. Since my opinion (plus Jackie's) are the only opinions that matter when it comes to spending my money.........well, there you go.

[squibby]

Originally Posted by Mick de V

Having had both the 750S and the 910R, I couldn't agree more. Though I have to admit I haven't ridden the new generation Bruties.

Yeah agree with both of you... almost. I'd suggest the 1078rr is going to be 'the one' rather then the 910R, but yeah there's nothing in it between them. The 1078 got a lot more hype though as the ultimate evolution and had the big hp to win bragging rights.