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Why not? First Internacional Track day MV Agusta.

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#1 ·
Sorry if this thread is in another place, or is an old idea.

Lately I've been thinking:

What do you think of organizing an International track day MV Agusta.

I saw that this forum is international, I've seen more people riding trak day in Europe and Spain in particular.

It has ever raised an international track day ... could be in first time in Europe,in Spain:), good weather, very chip for you, MotoGP circuits ... whay do you think ?....

Another year on another continent and we rotate
We can organize from this forum , and help in the forum in Spain why not?

pd:sorry for my english, I'm triying to improve it.
 
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#3 ·
Nurburgring

The optimal location for mvagusta.net trackday must be the Nurburgring Nordsleife. It is centrally located in the middle of Europe, close to our English friends. And an achievable distance for most other countries in Europe.

A week of MV meeting around the Nordsleife would be incredibly fun.

Alternatively Ade C. can book the Isle of Man to us.:laughing:
 
#7 ·
Point of fact.......we already have an "international" track day.......version number three.......will be held in October at the Bub. It may be in Alabama, but it has had a representative group of international participants every year.

Avail yourself this year.......:). Lil' Talley might not be Imola, but it's gotta be more fun.....
 
#11 ·
Josh, my memory is kinda weak.......have you ever been to our track day?
 
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#12 ·
No sir, haven't attended. Short on money for the track outings and couldn't afford to rebuild a bike if a crash occured (you never know). It's a chance I can't take (please don't mention any of the bubba rides :smoking: ).

I've been tight with money for the last few years, lost my house, almost lost my wife, & am now staying in a 1 br apartment with bikes in storage. Bikes are payed off, truck & car payed off, and now trying to deal with foreclosure aftermath. Also going to school full time for welding diploma/ certification.
I'd like to try Road Atlanta or the new place that was mentioned in another thread.... maybe I can sell off some things to afford a weekend of fun?? Maybe not.
 
#14 ·
You didn't think so?
What is your point?
I can tell you mine..... I don't like that location & why would I waste my money on riding there if I don't feel that I'll have fun? Sure it's fun to putt around on it :brutale: and feel good about being there. Mv's are not made for that track, maybe your Brutale is.... but I think even a Brutale should deserve more respect than to be cruising around Little Tally. It's even in the name "Little Tally".... :stickpoke
I never complained about the location, I just didn't go.
Don't compare it with an actual race track like any Moto GP tracks.... it's not even close to them, not even close to the "Road Atlanta" or "Barber Motosports" tracks.
Ever hear anyone say "Hey next year, let's go to the Moto GP race at Little Tally." ??? :jerkoff: Yeah right.
I know that there's a cost involved to renting a track and all. It's great that it was put together and Elton did a great job from what I've read on here. I simply didn't want to put my money into something I wouldn't enjoy to my fullest. Why does that seem wrong?
And...
I'm not trying to belittle your "Bubba Meet" at all, It's a great time for everyone to get together for the love of the Mv brand.
Do it for the love of the brand, not so you can pat yourself on the back for the next year cause you put it together.

Having said that, I doubt I'll be invited to this years meet, and I will still live either way it falls.
I love my bike and I love the people on this forum as well (even if you don't have an Mv).

:smoking:
 
#15 · (Edited)
You didn't think so?
What is your point?
I can tell you mine..... I don't like that location & why would I waste my money on riding there if I don't feel that I'll have fun? Sure it's fun to putt around on it :brutale: and feel good about being there. Mv's are not made for that track, maybe your Brutale is.... but I think even a Brutale should deserve more respect than to be cruising around Little Tally. It's even in the name "Little Tally".... :stickpoke
I never complained about the location, I just didn't go.
Don't compare it with an actual race track like any Moto GP tracks.... it's not even close to them, not even close to the "Road Atlanta" or "Barber Motosports" tracks.
Ever hear anyone say "Hey next year, let's go to the Moto GP race at Little Tally." ??? :jerkoff: Yeah right.
I know that there's a cost involved to renting a track and all. It's great that it was put together and Elton did a great job from what I've read on here. I simply didn't want to put my money into something I wouldn't enjoy to my fullest. Why does that seem wrong?
And...
I'm not trying to belittle your "Bubba Meet" at all, It's a great time for everyone to get together for the love of the Mv brand.
Do it for the love of the brand, not so you can pat yourself on the back for the next year cause you put it together.

Having said that, I doubt I'll be invited to this years meet, and I will still live either way it falls.
I love my bike and I love the people on this forum as well (even if you don't have an Mv).

:smoking:
What is my point? Wow, where do I start? First, yes you will be invited to the Bub. All ladies and gentlemen, interested in having good clean fun, making new friends, and renewing old friendships, while enjoying a mutual interest in MV motorcycles are invited to my event. Whether you think you fit in is your choice. And yes, you'll live either way. I got that much.....

If you're not trying to belittle my "Bubba Meet", you're doing a dahamn fine job of faking it. Actually, I have asked for others to 'Captain' the track day at Little Talledega from the start. I've got my hands full coordinating the other three days, and I'm dahamn appreciative of the efforts put forth by Elton, Carl, Ed, and others on our behalf. Your comments on an event you've never attended are hurtful and spiteful to more than just me.

As for patting myself on the back, I'll let others, you included, be the judge of that. Either way, I'll live with it. I'll reddily pat myself on the back for making numerous new friends, and having loads of fun. I'm very proud of the Bubbalicious, not because it's my event, but because of the friendships and fun it has spawned.

Finally Josh, and respectfully, you just don't get the point. "Lil Tally" is a great time had by all. It's close to my home. It's cheap for everyone to attend. They treat us great there. It's not about the "track". It's about the people and the fun. I wouldn't care where we had the event. Fancy tracks like Road Atlanta and Barber would cost three or four times what we spend at Little Talledega.

I had my tongue firmly in cheek when I compared Little Talledega to Imola. You didn't get that? Do you really think that I'm comparing the two tracks, or even the two events? Really?

As for 'disrespecting' the MV marque by 'cruising around' Little Talledega, I don't know what to say. Last time I checked, it's my motorcycle to do with as I please. Respectfully, who made you the arbiter of what is appropriate useage of all things MV Agusta, and especially of my motorcycles?

Additionally, no one that I am aware of, criticized you for your choice of not attending our track event. I've never ever criticized anyone who chooses not to attend any of our events. Our event cost many of my guests thousands of dollars in travel to attend, and I am grateful for each and every one who chooses to grace us with their attendance. I have always tried to be sensitive to the substantial cost incurred by everyone......including myself.....in attending the Bubbalicious.

Finally, I'll choose why I put on the Bubbalicious, thank you very much. Why? Because Jackie and I are the ones putting on the event. For clarification's sake, I don't do it for the 'love of the brand'. I do it for the love of the people who happen to love the brand. You clearly don't get that. If you don't like my motivation, host your own event, choose your own reasons, and do it your way.

Your comments and criticism of an event you've never attended is duly noted. If I've offended you with my joking around comparing Imola with Little Talledega, I apoligize.
 
#16 · (Edited)
Damn, Josh. Saying MV Agustas are not made for Little Tally is as naive as saying Ferraris are not made for Lime Rock.

Maybe you ride at moto gp level, most of us here don't. We all had a great time at the track and will most likely go back again this year.

Maybe we should all respect our MVs a little more and if we can't ride them on a proper track, put them in storage like you.

And one more thing: you owe Randy an apology. He works damn hard to make everyone feel welcome. I can assure you, he doesn't do it so he can pat himself on the back.
 
#17 ·
Easy there fellas....

Something has apparently gotten out of hand here. I don't ever remember Randy losing his cool...and we've stretched him pretty thin on occasion.

Josh, if I may, perhaps you've taken somthing out of context. I have ridden my MV only on small tracks. Partly because I don't have access to a world class track in my neck-of-the-woods, and partly because I might just get myself in over my head if I did.

Little Tally is like Louden, except that Louden (NHMS or New Hampshire Motor Speedway) has elevation changes. Every track teaches me something about motorcycle control. I don't need to be pinned in 6th to experience the thrill of a track...I just need to have the front end wash out in turn 12 in the rain only to save it and continue...point being it's about the experience you gain with motorcycle control that drives me to the track...and we all have different motivations for that.

Randy and Jackie through out an open invitation in '09 to an event that could have been a dud. They opened their property and lives to a bunch of marauders from all over the world, joined by a common motorcycle brand, for fellowship surrounding a common interest...motorcycles and motorcycling. There was no need for them to do this. I missed the first one, and I am heartbroken about it. My wife and I lament the decision not to go. That decision was made because I had a shoulder reconstructed and I couldn't ride. That was a bad decision.

The second year, we went. We developed friends from around the globe. I brought motorcycles to loan to people I had never met. My wife thought me nuts, but supported me and she's immensely glad she did. Those motorcycles were not MV Agusta...and that did not matter.

Bub III came along and there was no way we'd miss this Family Gathering.

It isn't about the brand.

It certainly isn't about Randy and Jackie putting on an event to say "Look at us" (Their charitable gatherings and support of the community are well known.)

It is about a gathering of people with a love of motorcycles and a genuine care and love for their fellow riding companions...whether they pilot their own machine, ride pillion, or support those who do ride.

The Randarosa is a place to gather and enjoy the company of people, without regard to background, or status, or __________(fill-in-the-blank).

Randy made a tongue-in-cheek comment about the Bub being an already established "international" event because people from across the globe attend.

To even imply that this event is motivated by selfishness or vanity is simply unthinkable. Jackie and Randy are two of the most genuine giving people that I've been fortunate enough to meet.

Little Tally is not Imola, certainly.

The track event was an add-on by request, and consensus, of the participants. Were there another appropriate venue...AMS in the future perhaps...and people wanted to do that, I am certain Randy would have his opinion and input, but that would not necissarily set the direction.

Sorry for the length of this rant, but I'd hope that the MVA.net community, while strongly opinionated, would refrain from, what appears to me, and probalby to outsiders looking in, as an insult to good people.
 
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Something has apparently gotten out of hand here. I don't ever remember Randy losing his cool...and we've stretched him pretty thin on occasion.

Josh, if I may, perhaps you've taken somthing out of context. I have ridden my MV only on small tracks. Partly because I don't have access to a world class track in my neck-of-the-woods, and partly because I might just get myself in over my head if I did.

Little Tally is like Louden, except that Louden (NHMS or New Hampshire Motor Speedway) has elevation changes. Every track teaches me something about motorcycle control. I don't need to be pinned in 6th to experience the thrill of a track...I just need to have the front end wash out in turn 12 in the rain only to save it and continue...point being it's about the experience you gain with motorcycle control that drives me to the track...and we all have different motivations for that.

Randy and Jackie through out an open invitation in '09 to an event that could have been a dud. They opened their property and lives to a bunch of marauders from all over the world, joined by a common motorcycle brand, for fellowship surrounding a common interest...motorcycles and motorcycling. There was no need for them to do this. I missed the first one, and I am heartbroken about it. My wife and I lament the decision not to go. That decision was made because I had a shoulder reconstructed and I couldn't ride. That was a bad decision.

The second year, we went. We developed friends from around the globe. I brought motorcycles to loan to people I had never met. My wife thought me nuts, but supported me and she's immensely glad she did. Those motorcycles were not MV Agusta...and that did not matter.

Bub III came along and there was no way we'd miss this Family Gathering.

It isn't about the brand.

It certainly isn't about Randy and Jackie putting on an event to say "Look at us" (Their charitable gatherings and support of the community are well known.)

It is about a gathering of people with a love of motorcycles and a genuine care and love for their fellow riding companions...whether they pilot their own machine, ride pillion, or support those who do ride.

The Randarosa is a place to gather and enjoy the company of people, without regard to background, or status, or __________(fill-in-the-blank).

Randy made a tongue-in-cheek comment about the Bub being an already established "international" event because people from across the globe attend.

To even imply that this event is motivated by selfishness or vanity is simply unthinkable. Jackie and Randy are two of the most genuine giving people that I've been fortunate enough to meet.

Little Tally is not Imola, certainly.

The track event was an add-on by request, and consensus, of the participants. Were there another appropriate venue...AMS in the future perhaps...and people wanted to do that, I am certain Randy would have his opinion and input, but that would not necissarily set the direction.

Sorry for the length of this rant, but I'd hope that the MVA.net community, while strongly opinionated, would refrain from, what appears to me, and probalby to outsiders looking in, as an insult to good people.

I can't add much more than what Chuck said. The trackday is still about the people. Yes a larger track would be fun for the guys that have been on the tracks before. But little tally is great for the new guys to get to know there bikes. It is good for the non riders since they can see the whole track from one spot. And lets not forget that two very experienced riders have went down on this small track so it does have a good degree of challenges.
 
#18 · (Edited)
Just to throw my unsolicited two cents in, (occupational hazard!):

We spent a long time discussing which track to go to before selecting Little Tally. As part of this discussion, I priced out Barber and posted the numbers for discussion and comment. I don't recall the exact number, but if recollection serves me, Barber would have cost everybody about $600.00 a piece for the day. Much more than Little Tally's entry fee, but arguably worth it. That's why we had the discussion.

In the end, we decided to go with Little Tally. It fit in better with most people's budget. It made sense for a whole host of reasons.

Having opted for TGPR, I have to echo Chuck and Carl's observation. While TGPR is much smaller than Barber or Atlanta raceway, that doesn't mean it isn't a worthwhile place to run an MV Agusta, (or any other bike, for that matter). As Chuck pointed out, any of us can learn much from any track day, regardless of the size. Now I suppose that if you're in Casey Stoner's league, you might find TGPR a bit elementary. But I dare say that none of us are so good that we can't learn from and have fun at a track day at TGPR.

Your post reminds me of a track day I did at Miller Raceway in Utah. Miller is big. Real big. They have several different layouts, but when they use the parameter layout, total track distance is over 4 miles! And the front straight away is....how can I say it?...it's not a straight away, it's a frickin' landing strip! I mean, when you come off turn 14 onto the front straight, you can't even see turn 1! It's the better part of a mile. Suffice it to say, the front straight at Miller is long enough to top out any bike in the world.

This is where it gets interesting: At all the tracks I've been to, I always hear people complaining about how the front straight isn't long enough. People griping about how they could go faster if there were just more room. So, when you get to Miller, there's your chance. You can go as fast as you want. The only problem is, talk is cheap. And 140 doesn't just feel like 20mph more than 120, it feels like a whole lot more than 120. And 160? Now you can feel your bunghole starting to tighten up. 160 feels like 300mph compared to 120! How about 180? 200? Do you have the balls? Really? Let me tell you, all those people I've been listening to, shooting off their mouth about wanting a longer front straight, they shut up really quickly at Miller. Personally, I was on a (borrowed) Buell, one of those new fancy ones, and I lost my nerve at 152. I shut it down. There was more there, but that was enough for me.

So, whenever I hear people carping about, "real," tracks, about big tracks, I remember Barber. You really want to take your F4 312 onto Barber and see if it'll do 312kph? Really?

I think most of us are okay getting it up to 110 down the back straight at TGPR and calling it a day.
 
#20 ·
Your obsession with your health, interest in your finance, and your career are getting in the way of track days, Elton.

It's annoying.
Just wait til he gets married and looses all opportunity to have a voice.....:stickpoke
 
#22 ·
Can someone please translate this, I'll be in Italy on a bike trip from July 14-19 and may want to do this.

QUOTE=SamuelVega;516775]you can find in italy this kind of track day!

[/QUOTE]
 
#24 ·
Josh....had no idea about the loss of home and near loss of spouse (she's a keeper...glad that didn't happen). Proud of you for chasing another career after the last one tanked in the construction/housing collapse. Looking forward to knowing a skilled welder...

You know I think the world of you...a selfless and generous man. You have certainly been that way for me.

So let's forget the Tally GP thing....if you don't like the track, that's fine. You aren't alone in that opinion, I know. But it was the best choice for our low pressure, small group outing.

Maybe this year we can do the AMP circuit???

Anyway, hope to see you soon...and hope you can join Bubba IV for more than just the one evening like last year (wish I hadn't been in a narcotic haze and could have talked more). Even if you don't do the track day, just your being there to share your knowledge, experience and friendship would be a benefit for the entire gang.

So.....how do I find the bucks to go to Europe for a real "International" track day????....lottery ticket may be my only chance.
 
#25 ·
Randy, I am sorrry for going on my rant... hope you can accept it.
I never said that everyone that was involved in the track day didn't do a great job.


I guess I also owe everyone an apology, sorry everyone.

Carl,
I never said put your bike in storage if you can't ride at Moto Gp level. That's just silly. My bike is there because I can't afford to fix it. When I mentioned my bike was out of service last year, a few people offered to fix it & someone mentioned it would be cool to do while we were at the bubba meet. The idea was shot down very quickly. I am thankful for those that made the offer to help me, it was a kind & generous offering. I'll have my bike fixed sooner or later and I'll have to do it myself, likely by myself but I'm in no hurry. I want to make sure it is done right. Last I checked, there isn't really a shop around here that is qualified to fix it. Sucks for me, but that's how it is.
 
#26 ·
I'm fine.....let's move on. Get back to friendship, fun, and learning about MV's. Gracious apology, gladly accepted.
 
#29 ·
I'm guessing he's at a naked photo shoot.....:wtf:
 
#30 · (Edited)
What can I say that has not been said already by all the repeat offenders of Bubba and the track day?

Lil Tally is not the most technical track out there nor is it the easiest either.
Once I rode my MV on that track and by my own fault I did not have as much fun as I should have.
I rode my track bike and a few other bikes, since forum members were kind and trusting enough to lend me theirs, and I had a blast.

It is a great event. Very stress free. The track is ALWAYS wide open. You can ride alone if you want or you can ride in a group. Or was it that I was so slow that I blocked others from passing me?
I can't think of any other track day where I have had the whole track to myself, where I not even for one moment I felt I had a guy there with a chip on his shoulder.

I don't mean it in a bad way at all.... I see this track day as playing v-ball in the back yard with a bunch of friends. Some play really well (ride fast) others hit the ball up in the air (go in the right direction of the track, like me). At the end of the day we all have fun in a stress free environment.

As for the event itself. I have never seen so many different people from all walks of life, age, country, etcetera in one place together with something in common and truly enjoying the new friends.

I even brought a friend, not a member of the forum, without telling Randy, not riding a MV, and he was as welcomed as any one else there. He did get some grief from Miss Jackie for popping wheelies (and some otta boys from every one else). Other members of the forum even allowed him to ride their track bike on the track.

It was a lot of fun!
 
#36 ·
Josh, my next door neighbor is a master welder. If it has to do with metal, he can pretty much do it all. He did our front door for us at the new house and does a lot of custom work for high end builders. If you re interested, I could get you in contact with him. or even better, come spend a few days with him at the shop, you re welcomed to stay with us.
 
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